Alpha Males Don’t Use Game – A Response

Published by Online Dating — 04-17-2026 10:04:53 AM

Note: I’m not going to respond to any hate, I would just like to give a quick commentary on an article I read the other day. Feel free to underestimate how much I care, and respond to this article with how wrong I am.

Real Made Men – Alpha Males Don’t Use Game

This article is bullshit. Saying “alpha males don’t use game” is like saying, “No artist ever went to an art class”, or “Musicians don’t take music lessons”.

I would like to take time and quote a fair bit of the article and make a few points and rebuttals.

A few days ago, I sat and watched one of my boys approach and talk to two girls for a good fifteen to twenty minutes. He kept gaming them, and didn’t get the result he expected.

He was doing it wrong. Approaches don’t always go smoothly and no one has a 100% success rate. The purpose of learning Game isn’t to give you a 100% success rate, but rather improve your current success rate. Your son simply needs a bit more experience. He should learn from his mistakes, go over the interaction in his head a few times, ask questions to experienced players, and then re-calibrate and try again.

At this point the author details a set he ran and says he didn’t use game in this set. I will show you the exact game techniques he used, and why they worked.

After he finished, I looked over at the girl I wanted, and nonchalantly waved her to come over. She smiled, and came over, standing as I sat in my chair. I asked her if she had a boyfriend, she smiled and said “no”. I pulled out my phone, and told her to put her number in it. She reacted with “you didn’t even talk to me!!”, I responded with absolutely nothing, as she put her number in my phone and she made damn sure I spelled her name correctly after she handed me my phone back (And no, she didn’t flake).

“And nonchalantly waved her to come over” – This demonstrates a strong frame and his aloof demeanor worked towards triggering her pre-selection.
“I asked her if she had a boyfriend…” – Confidence, but based on the way he writes, I’m willing to bet that he would have ‘respected’ her if she said yes. Either way, I would never advocate asking this, simply because a) it doesn’t matter – at all – and; b) it triggers defenses if she does have a boyfriend. Let her drop the IHAB, until then proceed as though she’s single.
“I pulled out my phone…” – Compliance test. Plain and simple. He held a frame, made a statement, and (by his own words) expected her to do it.
“She reacted with, ‘you didn’t even talk to me!’” – Shit test. He played it up with some Evade & Re-Frame by completely ignoring it, which is a great way to handle a shit test.

Why did it work? I want you to think about something for a moment. If you are a guy that really is a top dog, would you really be chasing women around, trying to impress them with game, or doing anything that you really don’t want to do? No, you wouldn’t. You would be calm, laid back, with no need to game or impress them. If you are like me, then you would know that who you are is enough to get her.

Why did it work?
You exhibited a strong frame, and aloof demeanor – the very thing game teaches other men to do.

If you are a guy that really is a top dog, would you really be chasing women around, trying to impress them with game, or doing anything that you really don’t want to do?
I don’t chase women, I make them chase me. I don’t try and impress them with game, I use game to show them the best of myself. The last part of the question is ridiculous. If you don’t want to practice Game, you wont. I personally enjoy the growth in my sex life.

If you are a guy that is a top dog, you would know that who you are is enough to get the girl. Some of you more beta types will try dismantling it, but it’s not even about that or anything to be replicated. If you were to ask me how I knew that the aforementioned girl would like me, I would respond with “Because I am me. Why should I have to impress her or spend more time talking to her than I have to?”.

A few issues with this statement. First: Some guys – alphas included – just need to refine who they are. Some alphas still hold on to limiting thoughts, or hindering romantic ideals; game helps you remove these things. While alphas may have a measure of natural charisma and higher lay rate than the average guy, game can still help shape him into something even better. It’s like a natural diamond – it’s beautiful, but when a precision laser is taken to it and it is given a cut and mounted properly, it becomes that much more beautiful and valuable.

Next: The author says that ‘it’s not even about that or anything to be replicated.’ This is false. Anything that is even moderately successful can be replicated to yield similar results for those copying it. My line of work is 100% commission based. There is a woman in my office who sees 3 clients and works 4 hours a day and makes $2,000 a month and a man in my office who sees 13 clients a day and works 12 hours a day and makes $15,000 a month. Now, I’m sure his sales abilities have a bit to do with his high pay, but you would be a fool to say that you can make just as much money as him and only see as many clients as the first co-worker I mentioned. If I didn’t know jack shit about my job, other than how the others worked, I would work just as hard, see as many people, and hold the same hours as my successful co-worker.

When you see someone doing something correctly and getting amazing results, you copy them. Success is simply emulating Successful People. It goes the same for seduction. Roosh has banged hundreds upon hundreds women. I may not have the same build, facial structure or skin tone, but if I approach like he approaches and say what he says, I know my notch count will climb.

It’s not about what I did to get the girl, because I don’t think about those things, nor do I make an effort to. I just felt like she should have came over to me, I felt like I shouldn’t have had to spend a lot of time talking to her, and I felt like she should have just gave me her phone number.

Just because you didn’t know you were using game, doesn’t mean you don’t use game because you’re just so alpha.

Why? Because that’s the perspective I come from. When you’re at the top, you’re not thinking about game, impressing a woman, or whatever else you guys think you should do to get girls.

I admit, when you’re at the top you see things differently.

I’d actually guess that the author of this article is a high beta who, because of his success rate, assumes he’s an alpha. He’s disenfranchised with game for some reason – maybe he fucked up a palm read. I don’t know why he doesn’t think an alpha would ever use game, but I do know that he’s dead wrong.